Post by Ahyoung on Apr 18, 2016 0:34:16 GMT 10
So the main thing in this one, again, my conversation with Hongchul. I find him so hard to read! Is he with me?? Is he with Eunji?? I can't tell. I kind of tried to get him on my side in being against Eunji but I'm not sure if that was the right thing to do? I adore him yet I'm totally unsure of him, because I get the sense that he's a very clever and unpredictable guy- makes me think he's Katie 
So, one thing that came up, apparently Dongmin promised to give Hongchul immunity if he won. Now, that is VERY interesting to me. Sunggyu made a comment to me about Dongmin being very well connected and all that, obviously trying to make me turn on him. At the time I was just like, lol you've got to be kidding me, don't go saying that shit to his closest ally, I'm not buying what you're selling for even a second. But now...I don't know, there is a truth to it. Sunggyu also said we should round up the old Apples, I don't think I was very believable in agreeing to that alliance I tried, because of course I don't want to make it known to him that I want him out, but yeah, my lying has definitely been better. Sorry, I'm not interested in working with you. You're coming to me now because you're desperate, your main alliance is down to two. I'm first choice or I'm nothing, I don't accept being second choice. I can do better. Dongmin, Kyunghoon and Jinho all have been wanting to work with me from the start or close to, so I'm not turning on them to go with someone who had zero interest in working with me until his two preferred allies were gone. I know what I've just said about Dongmin, but I'm planning to be cautious around him. Turning on him is not on my mind, yet.
Now, Eunji and I were both online the whole time. Most of the time was with only one other person online- first Sunggyu, then Hongchul. And yet, she didn't message me for two hours. I didn't message her because I wanted to see if she would come to me first, and the fact that she didn't has confirmed to me that I need her gone because she's against me. Or not interested in being my ally. Either way, you serve no purpose to my game. Every single other person is useful. Sunggyu is above Eunji because he has at least tried for an alliance with me. Eunji is giving me nothing whatsoever. In fact, worse than that, I believe she's trying to hurt my game. Sorry Eunji, I simply cannot tolerate that
After two hours I did send her a message, just to try get info out of her. Apparently she doesn't really speak to Jinho and Kyunghoon. I can definitely believe that. I think those two don't talk much to anyone, potentially the most to me? I'll make sure to turn them against her, so they'll pick her if they go into a Death Match.
Anyway, so after all this, what I WANT is for Hongchul to be my main guy, and when I say that I mean the one person who I'm totally honest with and who I try to do most of strategising with. But it's just...I don't know if I can trust him. I trusted Dongmin, but that's dead now. Not totally, I'm still fine with him in our four, but...he's certainly not my number one any longer, after he went behind my back and made a deal about immunity. He was never going to give it to me, even if I said I needed it. He must have been relieved when he got out of it so easily. If Sunggyu or Yoonsun had lost, I'd sure as hell have been pissed if he didn't give me that immunity.
Here's my conversation with Hongchul. Or at least, the last hour of our conversation. We talked about the Genius before that because he's in the middle of S3 and has finally joined the fortunate few in being able to witness the gloriousness that is Ahyoung :')
That round where she was blind, she didn't give me her information until after it was over, I think on purpose. Idk why she would dislike me, we've barely even spoken. But she gave the info to everyone else and not me?
These seem to be the groups in my opinion:
Eunji - Sunggyu
You - Me - Kyungran
Jinho - Kyunghoon
I don't really know where Dongmin stands, he must have good bonds with a lot of people to win the previous main match though.
Eunji and Sunggyu is obvious, yeah. Their numbers have dwindled so I would expect them to try to find something new. But the fact that Eunji doesn't like me makes me nervous. Would prefer to get the numbers without them. I do get along well with Jinho. I haven't spoken much with Kyunghoon, but I agree, I think he's just quiet. And would probably be happy to go with anyone who will take him?
The good thing about Sunggyu and Eunji is they are likely to come to Kyungran and I because we worked together in the team event. So if we need information out of them we can get it. If you're close with Jinho that's good too. The worst thing we could do in my opinion would be to get one or two to work with us 3, because they'd feel like they are at the bottom. Best approach would be for us three to try and work with one each of Jinho, Dongmin and Kyunghoon. That way our three would end up with all the information needed for any match and theoretically we should be able to control things. There's always curve balls though and without knowing exacts of the main matches it makes it a bit harder, but it's definitely a nice position to be in. You're definitely right about Kyungoon though, after two death matches he'd grab on to anything he could. Or even if we did use us three in a group with one or two others, we could just casually bring up including any of us three so we wouldn't be suspected as been completely with each other.
I think that's probably a good idea. So you with Dongmin, me with Jinho, and try to get Kyungran with Kyunghoon? But we'll have to see if they get along at all first. I could try with him as well. We were talking about board games at the zombie match. It's something at least! But with all three of us working people, I think we'd be about as safe as possible
Though please let me have immunity if Eunji is ever at the bottom
you're definitely my favourite. So any chance to save you I would be happy to take.
Yeah we'd have to see how Kyungran feels about it first. We don't want to go making deals and tactics between the two of us and have her feeling excluded. Hopefully we have a bit of time to talk before getting in to the next main match on Monday. Then we can set out a solid plan there.
Looks like time is up now. So I look forward to seeing you on Wednesday and working together again. Enjoy the start of the week
Is he trustworthy?? I'm leaning towards...yes. An apprehensive yes. Mainly because I really want him to be because I like him a whole lot.
Also I talked to Kyunghoon a little bit and he's as adorable as ever
I think he's sincere in what he says, I do trust him very much. He wants our four to do really well together
Sorry if this isn't easy to read, I kind of write every paragraph at the same time and just go back and forth between them depending on which train of thought is in my mind at that moment. So it's a jumble.
So, one thing that came up, apparently Dongmin promised to give Hongchul immunity if he won. Now, that is VERY interesting to me. Sunggyu made a comment to me about Dongmin being very well connected and all that, obviously trying to make me turn on him. At the time I was just like, lol you've got to be kidding me, don't go saying that shit to his closest ally, I'm not buying what you're selling for even a second. But now...I don't know, there is a truth to it. Sunggyu also said we should round up the old Apples, I don't think I was very believable in agreeing to that alliance
I tried, because of course I don't want to make it known to him that I want him out, but yeah, my lying has definitely been better. Sorry, I'm not interested in working with you. You're coming to me now because you're desperate, your main alliance is down to two. I'm first choice or I'm nothing, I don't accept being second choice. I can do better. Dongmin, Kyunghoon and Jinho all have been wanting to work with me from the start or close to, so I'm not turning on them to go with someone who had zero interest in working with me until his two preferred allies were gone. I know what I've just said about Dongmin, but I'm planning to be cautious around him. Turning on him is not on my mind, yet. Now, Eunji and I were both online the whole time. Most of the time was with only one other person online- first Sunggyu, then Hongchul. And yet, she didn't message me for two hours. I didn't message her because I wanted to see if she would come to me first, and the fact that she didn't has confirmed to me that I need her gone because she's against me. Or not interested in being my ally. Either way, you serve no purpose to my game. Every single other person is useful. Sunggyu is above Eunji because he has at least tried for an alliance with me. Eunji is giving me nothing whatsoever. In fact, worse than that, I believe she's trying to hurt my game. Sorry Eunji, I simply cannot tolerate that
After two hours I did send her a message, just to try get info out of her. Apparently she doesn't really speak to Jinho and Kyunghoon. I can definitely believe that. I think those two don't talk much to anyone, potentially the most to me? I'll make sure to turn them against her, so they'll pick her if they go into a Death Match. Anyway, so after all this, what I WANT is for Hongchul to be my main guy, and when I say that I mean the one person who I'm totally honest with and who I try to do most of strategising with. But it's just...I don't know if I can trust him. I trusted Dongmin, but that's dead now. Not totally, I'm still fine with him in our four, but...he's certainly not my number one any longer, after he went behind my back and made a deal about immunity. He was never going to give it to me, even if I said I needed it. He must have been relieved when he got out of it so easily. If Sunggyu or Yoonsun had lost, I'd sure as hell have been pissed if he didn't give me that immunity.
Here's my conversation with Hongchul. Or at least, the last hour of our conversation. We talked about the Genius before that because he's in the middle of S3 and has finally joined the fortunate few in being able to witness the gloriousness that is Ahyoung :')
Apr 17, 2016 22:13:37 GMT 10 ahyoung said:
I think she hates me, for real That round where she was blind, she didn't give me her information until after it was over, I think on purpose. Idk why she would dislike me, we've barely even spoken. But she gave the info to everyone else and not me?Apr 17, 2016 22:24:23 GMT 10 hongchul said:
That sucks. I think she has always thought she was in a good spot and comfortable, with all her strawberries and then with the five we had for the team match too. Maybe now she is losing numbers she will open up with you a bit more. I feel like I am on good terms with everyone bar Kyunghoon and Jinho. But I think those are just two quiet guys who keep to themselves. These seem to be the groups in my opinion:
Eunji - Sunggyu
You - Me - Kyungran
Jinho - Kyunghoon
I don't really know where Dongmin stands, he must have good bonds with a lot of people to win the previous main match though.
Apr 17, 2016 22:31:22 GMT 10 ahyoung said:
I get the same feeling with Dongmin as you, he's on good terms with everyone but not especially close with anyone. But if he picked you to get the token, he probably feels closest to you? I hope so. We could potentially use that. Do you think that could be true? If he's got good connections he's a valuable ally. Eunji and Sunggyu is obvious, yeah. Their numbers have dwindled so I would expect them to try to find something new. But the fact that Eunji doesn't like me makes me nervous. Would prefer to get the numbers without them. I do get along well with Jinho. I haven't spoken much with Kyunghoon, but I agree, I think he's just quiet. And would probably be happy to go with anyone who will take him?
Apr 17, 2016 22:41:32 GMT 10 hongchul said:
Going into the last round he asked me if I would give him the token if I finished first and he second, and said he would do the same for me. I just agreed to it. Not sure if I actually would have, because my plan would have been to save either Kyungran or you. So I guess for me it turned out good that he actually won ahead of me. But I am sure he wouldn't have given it to me if he didn't feel as though he wanted to work with me down the track. So that is definitely something we could pursue. The good thing about Sunggyu and Eunji is they are likely to come to Kyungran and I because we worked together in the team event. So if we need information out of them we can get it. If you're close with Jinho that's good too. The worst thing we could do in my opinion would be to get one or two to work with us 3, because they'd feel like they are at the bottom. Best approach would be for us three to try and work with one each of Jinho, Dongmin and Kyunghoon. That way our three would end up with all the information needed for any match and theoretically we should be able to control things. There's always curve balls though and without knowing exacts of the main matches it makes it a bit harder, but it's definitely a nice position to be in. You're definitely right about Kyungoon though, after two death matches he'd grab on to anything he could. Or even if we did use us three in a group with one or two others, we could just casually bring up including any of us three so we wouldn't be suspected as been completely with each other.
Apr 17, 2016 22:51:15 GMT 10 ahyoung said:
Ah that's interesting. A very specific deal though. But yeah I'm glad it was him not you so you didn't have to expose yourself. And he didn't come to me or probably Kyungran with that deal, so likely he is just wanting to firm something with you.I think that's probably a good idea. So you with Dongmin, me with Jinho, and try to get Kyungran with Kyunghoon? But we'll have to see if they get along at all first. I could try with him as well. We were talking about board games at the zombie match. It's something at least! But with all three of us working people, I think we'd be about as safe as possible
Though please let me have immunity if Eunji is ever at the bottom Apr 17, 2016 22:58:49 GMT 10 hongchul said:
you're definitely my favourite. So any chance to save you I would be happy to take. Yeah we'd have to see how Kyungran feels about it first. We don't want to go making deals and tactics between the two of us and have her feeling excluded. Hopefully we have a bit of time to talk before getting in to the next main match on Monday. Then we can set out a solid plan there.
Looks like time is up now. So I look forward to seeing you on Wednesday and working together again. Enjoy the start of the week
Is he trustworthy?? I'm leaning towards...yes. An apprehensive yes. Mainly because I really want him to be because I like him a whole lot.
Also I talked to Kyunghoon a little bit and he's as adorable as ever
I think he's sincere in what he says, I do trust him very much. He wants our four to do really well together Sorry if this isn't easy to read, I kind of write every paragraph at the same time and just go back and forth between them depending on which train of thought is in my mind at that moment. So it's a jumble.