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Post by Ahyoung on May 8, 2016 20:04:05 GMT 10
Hongchul you don't have to do that. Neither of us expects you go to the DM for us. One of us will have lost fair and square.
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Post by Sunggyu on May 8, 2016 20:04:39 GMT 10
All I remember is you offered to help Ahyoung from last round condemning me to last, which genuinely hurt because I considered you a friend in this game up till then. W ell I apologise if you've taken it that way. I intend no ill will or malice with anything I do or post. As I said earlier, I have never seen what I am doing as going out of my way to make someone last or hellbent on making anyone last. I enjoy what everyone brings to this game and have never disliked anyone, especially two people like yourself and Ahyoung who are always active and helping of myself. I was trying to protect someone who had shown complete trust in me, by returning that favour. And you could argue that you have shown trust in me previously, which is absolutely correct and on the times I have worked with you I have enjoyed it and found it to be a lot of fun. The 5 on 5 main match is still my favourite of the entire game. In this game we have been on different sides all three times, which hasn't helped this situation between us here. Is there a way to disqualify myself and send myself to the death match? I'm more than happy to go to death matches and because I don't want anyone feeling upset or feeling like I am going out of my way to target them, and I would hate for you or Ahyoung to go into a death match feeling upset with this round the way it has turned out. That's nonsense. There are two people at the bottom, and you offer to help one of them. You are not an idiot, so you must see that the other side of the coin was that you were condemning Eunji by saving Ahyoung. Eunji went to the death match just last round and your decision seems callous and hard hearted. She genuinely trusted in you as an ally also. I think we all did up until you showed your hand this game. I'm seeing now what game you are playing. |
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Post by Hongchul on May 8, 2016 20:10:23 GMT 10
I have nothing left to say then. Form your own opinions of me. Im comfortable in my own skin. I'm the not the worst person in the world like I'm made out to be in that previous post though.
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Post by Sunggyu on May 8, 2016 20:17:27 GMT 10
I have nothing left to say then. Form your own opinions of me. Im comfortable in my own skin. I'm the not the worst person in the world like I'm made out to be in that previous post though. It is your actions I disapprove of Hyung, not you as a person. As to your proposed jury: Hongchul - no idea really. Doesn't seem to be playing this round based on roles but on some long-game agenda Ahyoung - one of a two person jury that found a Not Guilty. I still do not know what went on in that round and I probably won't find out until this game is over. Kyungran - my problem here is the Not Guilty verdict and sudden change of heart on her own chosen jury. Deflecting blame? I know it was not me, despite long consideration as such. And I honestly believed Kyunghoon was Citizen. So I'm very conflicted on this choice in particular. Now, if the Hongchul/Ahyoung combo really are on the side of good, I believe they would be trying for an all-citizen jury. If I accept that those three are the other three citizens, then I am saying that Kyunghoon is criminal with Jinho Hyung and Eunji Nuna. While there is evidence to suggest that Eunji is criminal, I am not convinced that the fourth citizen is not Kyunghoon or Jinho. In fact, I would lean more toward it being Kyunghoon right now but I am blind. I will reject this jury. |
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Post by Hongchul on May 8, 2016 21:16:05 GMT 10
You're playing a very similar role to the first round when you were criminal, where you would appeal to one or two of the citizens since you knew they were citizens, and act very much on their side to convince them of your innocence. You've done a complete 360 on what you said about approving any jury, this could be because of how sour this game has turned recently, but could be because if this jury goes ahead then we will all know of Kyungran's innocence, and Kyunghoon would be able to know that it was then you who gave the not guilty verdict in the trio last round. This was why I proposed this very jury, since we either bomb out 3-0 or we find out all four citizens since whoever out of Jinho and Kyunghoon would know that they could trust the three on this jury. |
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Post by Sunggyu on May 8, 2016 21:57:21 GMT 10
I wish to see votes on this Hyung, before deciding on a fate when we are 2-0 down and on the brink of destruction. Any mindful citizen would want the same. I'd be a fool to vote on blind trust at this point, would I not?
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Post by Eunji on May 8, 2016 22:00:08 GMT 10
What's the likelihood of the three criminals being on this mission together? It wouldn't matter to only have one, since the game will be over if this is approved. All they need is one citizen to approve this and it's game over, which is why they are begging for the 'fourth citizen' to accept. We have jumped at the first two proposed juries and they've both ended badly. I would hope that this mission would not go ahead and we at least have a think about this before jumping to conclusions.
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Post by Hongchul on May 8, 2016 22:06:20 GMT 10
Kyunghoon and Jinho are both in a spot where they can take that gamble. If the fourth citizen out of those two approves this mission and it fails I will send half a dozen garnets their way.
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Post by Eunji on May 8, 2016 22:07:53 GMT 10
 ok well if we're playing that way I'll send 7 if they do the opposite. |
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Post by Hongchul on May 8, 2016 22:09:37 GMT 10
I would assume the fourth citizen to be Kyunghoon since I would think if Kyungran's had chosen two criminals on her jury, I would assume the criminals would be hesitant to accept it. So by elimination process if Sunggyu is criminal then Kyunghoon would not be.
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Post by Hongchul on May 8, 2016 22:11:09 GMT 10
ok well if we're playing that way I'll send 7 if they do the opposite. 7 garnets to reject the jury? That seems a very desperate act. |
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Post by Eunji on May 8, 2016 22:12:03 GMT 10
You are only targeting Kyunghoon because you believe him most likely to stuff up and accept this jury, don't insult his intelligence.
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Post by Sunggyu on May 8, 2016 22:12:53 GMT 10
Kyunghoon and Jinho are both in a spot where they can take that gamble. If the fourth citizen out of those two approves this mission and it fails I will send half a dozen garnets their way. Why are you bribing people all the time? I doubt anyone is fool enough to trust your word at this point anyway. This is a precarious position and without knowledge we should not be approving anything. If after voting we see a pattern, and I become comfortable, I would propose the same jury myself. That is how we won last time and it's the only way to win as a citizen. Being pushed into agreement by the more vocal members of the congregation, or being bribed, is just playing into the hands of the criminals. |
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Post by Eunji on May 8, 2016 22:13:22 GMT 10
ok well if we're playing that way I'll send 7 if they do the opposite. 7 garnets to reject the jury? That seems a very desperate act. I can't even tell if you're being serious anymore Of course I'm desperate, I lose if this goes through. |
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Post by Kyungran on May 8, 2016 22:15:57 GMT 10
What's the likelihood of the three criminals being on this mission together? It wouldn't matter to only have one, since the game will be over if this is approved. All they need is one citizen to approve this and it's game over, which is why they are begging for the 'fourth citizen' to accept. We have jumped at the first two proposed juries and they've both ended badly. I would hope that this mission would not go ahead and we at least have a think about this before jumping to conclusions. Eunji wouldn't need to make this appeal if the fourth citizen was Sunggyu, as he has already stated he is voting to reject. I agree with Hongchul's logic that we would have seen two not guilty votes if Kyunghoon were a criminal, so I think this is all on you to trust us Kyunghoon. |
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