Main Match #7

[Ahyoung]

May 8, 2016 18:29:36 GMT 10 Eunji said:

Jinho Kyungran Kyunghoon Sunggyu

Before it's too late, before it's too late I want to say something. If you believe Ahyoung and Hongchul are citizens then fair enough. But is them winning this game really in your best interests? Right now none of you can come last, and only Sungyyu can potentially tie for first. So let's start thinking about beyond tonight. If Ahyoung wins out here, there is an unbreakable duo who will do anything for each other to help them survive. We all know big alliances won't get you far in this game. But a duo like that? That is a force that could take it all the way to the end. If one wins, they both win. Whatever relationship you thought you had with them, it clearly pales in comparison. The only way to break it is by sending one of them to the death match. I didn't want to take this beyond this week, but the smug and coy attitude they are both using these past two rounds has, quite frankly, disgusted me, and not just because I'm in the firing line.

I've been smug? You only say that because I've caught you out as a criminal. EVERYTHING I have done this round has been in an effort to save myself, I haven't tried to hurt anyone. I'm genuinely upset that you are calling me 'disgusting' simply because I'm fighting to stay in this and that negatively affects you. I have NEVER made a personal attack on you, everything I have said has been in the context of the game.

And if you want to talk about unbreakable pairs - we all know that you and Sunggyu have been inseparable since the Round 1 Strawberries! Hongchul and I didn't even talk to each other until rounds later. And by saying he'll approve every jury, Sunggyu is trying to save you every bit as much as Hongchul may have tried to save me. Difference being, Hongchul and I are on the SAME team, so he's not doing anything wrong, whereas perhaps you and Sunggyu are not.

So to the rest of you I ask- what do you want to do? I honestly don't know what to say here? Are we playing the Resistance? Are you going to vote on friendships? Apparently Eunji has more than me since she's trying to go that way.

[Hongchul]

I think it needs to be mentioned this is a game, on the Internet.

[Eunji]

May 8, 2016 18:42:45 GMT 10 Ahyoung said:

May 8, 2016 18:29:36 GMT 10 Eunji said:

Jinho Kyungran Kyunghoon Sunggyu

Before it's too late, before it's too late I want to say something. If you believe Ahyoung and Hongchul are citizens then fair enough. But is them winning this game really in your best interests? Right now none of you can come last, and only Sungyyu can potentially tie for first. So let's start thinking about beyond tonight. If Ahyoung wins out here, there is an unbreakable duo who will do anything for each other to help them survive. We all know big alliances won't get you far in this game. But a duo like that? That is a force that could take it all the way to the end. If one wins, they both win. Whatever relationship you thought you had with them, it clearly pales in comparison. The only way to break it is by sending one of them to the death match. I didn't want to take this beyond this week, but the smug and coy attitude they are both using these past two rounds has, quite frankly, disgusted me, and not just because I'm in the firing line.

I've been smug? You only say that because I've caught you out as a criminal. EVERYTHING I have done this round has been in an effort to save myself, I haven't tried to hurt anyone. I'm genuinely upset that you are calling me 'disgusting' simply because I'm fighting to stay in this and that negatively affects you. I have NEVER made a personal attack on you, everything I have said has been in the context of the game.

And if you want to talk about unbreakable pairs - we all know that you and Sunggyu have been inseparable since the Round 1 Strawberries! Hongchul and I didn't even talk to each other until rounds later. And by saying he'll approve every jury, Sunggyu is trying to save you every bit as much as Hongchul may have tried to save me. Difference being, Hongchul and I are on the SAME team, so he's not doing anything wrong, whereas perhaps you and Sunggyu are not.

So to the rest of you I ask- what do you want to do? I honestly don't know what to say here? Are we playing the Resistance? Are you going to vote on friendships? Apparently Eunji has more than me since she's trying to go that way.

You saying you would tell Hongchul if you were a criminal so he could throw his game for you? And him saying he 100% believes that he would? Forgive me, but it came across as smug. Are we playing the Resistance? Are you going to vote on friendships? I'm certainly not the one who was wanting to take this game beyond tonight. But as you are, I am just trying to keep myself safe.

Like I said, I make no secret that Sunggyu and I have been allies. The difference is he is playing for himself. In the Horror Race game he knew I was last but still ended the game by putting his piece across the finish line. Why? Because it helped him and gave him a chance to win. I would not expect nor want him to risk his own safety for me, and I wouldn't do it for him either.

[Hongchul]

So I think it is possible the citizens are: Hongchul, Ahyoung, Sunggyu and Kyungran

Ahyoung, do you trust Sunggyu to go for the citizen win?

[Ahyoung]

May 8, 2016 18:52:49 GMT 10 Eunji said:

May 8, 2016 18:42:45 GMT 10 Ahyoung said:

I've been smug? You only say that because I've caught you out as a criminal. EVERYTHING I have done this round has been in an effort to save myself, I haven't tried to hurt anyone. I'm genuinely upset that you are calling me 'disgusting' simply because I'm fighting to stay in this and that negatively affects you. I have NEVER made a personal attack on you, everything I have said has been in the context of the game.

And if you want to talk about unbreakable pairs - we all know that you and Sunggyu have been inseparable since the Round 1 Strawberries! Hongchul and I didn't even talk to each other until rounds later. And by saying he'll approve every jury, Sunggyu is trying to save you every bit as much as Hongchul may have tried to save me. Difference being, Hongchul and I are on the SAME team, so he's not doing anything wrong, whereas perhaps you and Sunggyu are not.

So to the rest of you I ask- what do you want to do? I honestly don't know what to say here? Are we playing the Resistance? Are you going to vote on friendships? Apparently Eunji has more than me since she's trying to go that way.

You saying you would tell Hongchul if you were a criminal so he could throw his game for you? And him saying he 100% believes that he would? Forgive me, but it came across as smug. Are we playing the Resistance? Are you going to vote on friendships? I'm certainly not the one who was wanting to take this game beyond tonight. But as you are, I am just trying to keep myself safe.

Like I said, I make no secret that Sunggyu and I have been allies. The difference is he is playing for himself. In the Horror Race game he knew I was last but still ended the game by putting his piece across the finish line. Why? Because it helped him and gave him a chance to win. I would not expect nor want him to risk his own safety for me, and I wouldn't do it for him either.

Did it ever occur to you I said that for game reasons, Eunji? What am I supposed to say? 'I'm not a criminal, but lol I wouldn't tell you if I were anyway jsyk.' Of course I said in front of everyone that I would have told him either way!

As to him saying he 100% believed that I would- well, it's possible he didn't inherently trust me but I don't know about that. But in any case, he SAID it in an attempt to make both of us look good, which of course we want to do to win. I actually wasn't entirely sure if he was playing me or not until the result of the second round. That made it clear to me that Hongchul could not be a criminal.

Neither of us is risking our safety for the other because we're on the same team. Would Hongchul have actually done so if we were on different teams? Idk. I wouldn't have expected it. But he IS on my team so of course he's doing what he can to help himself be on a winning team!

[Ahyoung]

May 8, 2016 18:56:31 GMT 10 Hongchul said:

So I think it is possible the citizens are: Hongchul, Ahyoung, Sunggyu and Kyungran

Ahyoung, do you trust Sunggyu to go for the citizen win?

I'm not sure After Eunji's speech I don't know how anyone will be thinking.

[Hongchul]

Alright I'm going to put a jury together of:

Kyungran - Hongchul - Ahyoung

Bandage Man

I feel most sure about these two. Whoever may be the fourth citizen, I ask you to approve this jury and then maybe we can live in a criminal free world, and all be happy together. I can also offer some for your trouble.

[Eunji]

May 8, 2016 19:08:37 GMT 10 Ahyoung said:

May 8, 2016 18:52:49 GMT 10 Eunji said:

You saying you would tell Hongchul if you were a criminal so he could throw his game for you? And him saying he 100% believes that he would? Forgive me, but it came across as smug. Are we playing the Resistance? Are you going to vote on friendships? I'm certainly not the one who was wanting to take this game beyond tonight. But as you are, I am just trying to keep myself safe.

Like I said, I make no secret that Sunggyu and I have been allies. The difference is he is playing for himself. In the Horror Race game he knew I was last but still ended the game by putting his piece across the finish line. Why? Because it helped him and gave him a chance to win. I would not expect nor want him to risk his own safety for me, and I wouldn't do it for him either.

Did it ever occur to you I said that for game reasons, Eunji? What am I supposed to say? 'I'm not a criminal, but lol I wouldn't tell you if I were anyway jsyk.' Of course I said in front of everyone that I would have told him either way!

As to him saying he 100% believed that I would- well, it's possible he didn't inherently trust me but I don't know about that. But in any case, he SAID it in an attempt to make both of us look good, which of course we want to do to win. I actually wasn't entirely sure if he was playing me or not until the result of the second round. That made it clear to me that Hongchul could not be a criminal.

Neither of us is risking our safety for the other because we're on the same team. Would Hongchul have actually done so if we were on different teams? Idk. I wouldn't have expected it. But he IS on my team so of course he's doing what he can to help himself be on a winning team!

I think we both know he would have

[Hongchul]

I have offered the same offer to the criminals in both rounds for the record, and offered Kyunghoon an offer to save him in round two and three too. I'm the frustrating bull in the china shop.

[Ahyoung]

May 8, 2016 19:19:04 GMT 10 Eunji said:

May 8, 2016 19:08:37 GMT 10 Ahyoung said:

Did it ever occur to you I said that for game reasons, Eunji? What am I supposed to say? 'I'm not a criminal, but lol I wouldn't tell you if I were anyway jsyk.' Of course I said in front of everyone that I would have told him either way!

As to him saying he 100% believed that I would- well, it's possible he didn't inherently trust me but I don't know about that. But in any case, he SAID it in an attempt to make both of us look good, which of course we want to do to win. I actually wasn't entirely sure if he was playing me or not until the result of the second round. That made it clear to me that Hongchul could not be a criminal.

Neither of us is risking our safety for the other because we're on the same team. Would Hongchul have actually done so if we were on different teams? Idk. I wouldn't have expected it. But he IS on my team so of course he's doing what he can to help himself be on a winning team!

I think we both know he would have

I think you're wrong

[Eunji]

May 8, 2016 19:21:13 GMT 10 Hongchul said:

I have offered the same offer to the criminals in both rounds for the record, and offered Kyunghoon an offer to save him in round two and three too. I'm the frustrating bull in the china shop.

So if I had been online to answer first you'd save me ahead of Ahyoung? I find that hard to believe.

[Hongchul]

May 8, 2016 19:36:10 GMT 10 Eunji said:

May 8, 2016 19:21:13 GMT 10 Hongchul said:

I have offered the same offer to the criminals in both rounds for the record, and offered Kyunghoon an offer to save him in round two and three too. I'm the frustrating bull in the china shop.

So if I had been online to answer first you'd save me ahead of Ahyoung? I find that hard to believe.

This is the events as I remember them:
Round 2 - I offered Sunngyu and Kyunghoon to tell me if they were criminal and I would make them the sole winner in exchange for token. Kyunghoon refused, and I said I'd offer him the same offer in round 3. That became null and void since he was actually a criminal in round 2. At 2-0 offered the criminals to confess and I'd try and help them in the final round. Ahyoung said she was and you guys ended up forfeiting soon after that. 
Round 3 - it starts and I go straight to Ahyoung to try and help her. 

[Eunji]

May 8, 2016 19:42:25 GMT 10 Hongchul said:

May 8, 2016 19:36:10 GMT 10 Eunji said:

So if I had been online to answer first you'd save me ahead of Ahyoung? I find that hard to believe.

This is the events as I remember them:
Round 2 - I offered Sunngyu and Kyunghoon to tell me if they were criminal and I would make them the sole winner in exchange for token. Kyunghoon refused, and I said I'd offer him the same offer in round 3. That became null and void since he was actually a criminal in round 2. At 2-0 offered the criminals to confess and I'd try and help them in the final round. Ahyoung said she was and you guys ended up forfeiting soon after that. 
Round 3 - it starts and I go straight to Ahyoung to try and help her. 

All I remember is you offered to help Ahyoung from last round condemning me to last, which genuinely hurt because I considered you a friend in this game up till then.

[Hongchul]

May 8, 2016 19:48:06 GMT 10 Eunji said:

May 8, 2016 19:42:25 GMT 10 Hongchul said:

This is the events as I remember them:
Round 2 - I offered Sunngyu and Kyunghoon to tell me if they were criminal and I would make them the sole winner in exchange for token. Kyunghoon refused, and I said I'd offer him the same offer in round 3. That became null and void since he was actually a criminal in round 2. At 2-0 offered the criminals to confess and I'd try and help them in the final round. Ahyoung said she was and you guys ended up forfeiting soon after that. 
Round 3 - it starts and I go straight to Ahyoung to try and help her. 

All I remember is you offered to help Ahyoung from last round condemning me to last, which genuinely hurt because I considered you a friend in this game up till then.

Well I apologise if you've taken it that way. I intend no ill will or malice with anything I do or post. As I said earlier, I have never seen what I am doing as going out of my way to make someone last or hellbent on making anyone last. I enjoy what everyone brings to this game and have never disliked anyone, especially two people like yourself and Ahyoung who are always active and helping of myself. I was trying to protect someone who had shown complete trust in me, by returning that favour. And you could argue that you have shown trust in me previously, which is absolutely correct and on the times I have worked with you I have enjoyed it and found it to be a lot of fun. The 5 on 5 main match is still my favourite of the entire game. In this game we have been on different sides all three times, which hasn't helped this situation between us here. Is there a way to disqualify myself and send myself to the death match? I'm more than happy to go to death matches and because I don't want anyone feeling upset or feeling like I am going out of my way to target them, and I would hate for you or Ahyoung to go into a death match feeling upset with this round the way it has turned out.

[Sunggyu]

May 8, 2016 19:42:25 GMT 10 Hongchul said:

May 8, 2016 19:36:10 GMT 10 Eunji said:

So if I had been online to answer first you'd save me ahead of Ahyoung? I find that hard to believe.

This is the events as I remember them:
Round 2 - I offered Sunngyu and Kyunghoon to tell me if they were criminal and I would make them the sole winner in exchange for token. Kyunghoon refused, and I said I'd offer him the same offer in round 3. That became null and void since he was actually a criminal in round 2. At 2-0 offered the criminals to confess and I'd try and help them in the final round. Ahyoung said she was and you guys ended up forfeiting soon after that. 
Round 3 - it starts and I go straight to Ahyoung to try and help her. 

But nobody was in any doubt at that stage? It was the most pointless offer I have ever seen and I questioned the motivation behind it. My dog knew who the criminals were.

PS. I have had a nap and I am ready to engage in this game again. I'm sorry for saying I would vote to a pre-determined schedule. That is very unlike me. I am reading through right now and trying to make a decision.